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Ask HN: Criticize my idea for a carbon negative cryptocurrency

foerbert 2021-08-17 06:02:59 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Not an expert on blockchain or anything really, so I'm just spitballing here.

It's an interesting idea in the sense that you'd have this enforced community-giving where the individual decisions about the giving are removed from the matter itself. I'm not sitting there looking at my bank account and wondering how much to give, and how. Instead I can look at it more abstractly. That's interesting.

But I think there's many problems.

The first real bulk of people to jump in will probably be those looking for a payday. However you'll be diverting coins from them, reducing their payday. You'd have to convince the self-interested that the coins they are giving up end up providing so much value to their other coins that it's worth it. This seems ripe to set up an even worse chicken-egg problem than usual.

The voting process. The only thing I can come up with is to basically run it based on coins held, unless you want to get into the business of confirming identities and all that. Again you end up with those most financially invested in the system being the ones with the control. How do you get them on-board with the idea, lest they decide to give to no non-profits?

About the only answer I've got here, which dovetails with the voting thing, is to just bake the addresses in and use hardforks to change em. This protects from attacks and also protects the community from, well, you.

However the main problems I foresee are all things that significantly reduce the thing I find most interesting about the concept - that being having the ability to remove the whole donation thing to a more abstract sort of problem. But if all the people with the power are the ones with the most financial stake, it's no longer really that abstract.

f0e4c2f7 2021-08-17 12:41:26 +0000 UTC [ - ]

That's a really interesting idea to use crypto as a way to fight climate change rather than exasperbating it. I think you're really into something there.

Rather than using dedicated wallets and a new coin another approach you might consider here are NFTs. The "Save Thousands of Lives" NFT that pg bought comes to mind here as the model.

http://www.paulgraham.com/nft.html

wmf 2021-08-16 18:22:14 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Donating coins that are worth zero doesn't accomplish anything.

itake 2021-08-16 15:26:56 +0000 UTC [ - ]

> The list of organizations/wallets could change over time, and would be selected by the community, probably with a formal process where anybody can create a proposal, then people can vote on them.

If one of the organizations chooses to no longer exist, or is acquired by another organization, or loses access to their wallet, the community may fail to find a consensus of what wallet address to send the funding to.

meiraleal 2021-08-17 10:25:28 +0000 UTC [ - ]

There are many "trying" it, like https://treedefi.com/ - it uses pancakeswap fork of uniswap and is very easy to setup a clone.

przeor 2021-08-16 18:05:38 +0000 UTC [ - ]

those orgs will dump free coins for usd

Avtomatk 2021-08-16 14:09:34 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I do not have data to support what I say but I believe that fiat money pollutes more than any cryptocurrency...

Just think about the printing of money, the transport of it, the construction of banks, all the bills they issue, the energy that is spend within the same bank, many countries have a relatively active national currency (that means mining)...

In the case of cryptocurrencies you are only spending electricity and production of graphics cards ....

I also think that the bitcoin algorithm is Shit inefficient, but certainly crypto pollutes a lot less than fiat money.