Ask HN: Is there a real alternative to Android/iOS?

cryogenicplanet 2021-08-18 00:32:06 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Saw CalxyOs recently, it is build on top of Android but is unbundled from Google. And fakes Google play services so you can actually use apps.

Haven't tried it personally and it only works on pixel devices but looks cool

More info in the video below https://youtu.be/qTtgzNGRAfA

pwason 2021-08-16 20:44:40 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Sailfish? https://sailfishos.org/ Purism? https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

lormayna 2021-08-16 21:35:07 +0000 UTC [ - ]

> Sailfish

Interesting, but it's an after market modding.

> Purism

Incredible high price

websap 2021-08-17 19:44:38 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Is Apple still going ahead with this plan? Even after all the backlash? Can rooted iphones stop the image scanning process?

certeoun 2021-08-18 07:20:00 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I didn't see any real backtracking from them. Last time I checked, they tried to downplay the impact of their new measures on privacy.

So apparently, there is currently CalyxOs that works with Pixel phones and Pop!_OS. Pop!_OS is an alternative to Windows or macOS. I believe that Microsoft does the same thing with its telemetry services.

helph67 2021-08-16 21:33:21 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Perhaps PinePhone? https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone You may be interested in this article. https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-free-android-smartphones-a...

2rsf 2021-08-17 09:40:20 +0000 UTC [ - ]

How much data is shared by the phone/OS itself vs applications you install? maybe buy a Pixel, disable as much unwanted features as you can and DON'T install unnecessary apps?

lormayna 2021-08-17 09:43:47 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I would like to remove my dependency from Google, then Pixel is not the best solution.

approxim8ion 2021-08-17 11:08:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Depends how willing you are to tinker. You could get Graphene/CalyxOS on a Pixel and move as far away from Google as you like, at your own (in)convenience.

giantg2 2021-08-16 21:45:56 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I heard e/OS is deGoogled Android. That might be a good starting point if you still want a lot of compatibility. Of course you have to be careful with the permissions you give any apps you install.

tbihl 2021-08-17 02:04:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Graphene is the one that seems most functional to me. Just remember that you will take a loss on features, or else everyone would do it.

lax4ever 2021-08-16 21:41:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]

LineageOS is another option https://lineageos.org/

bodqhrohro 2021-08-17 11:33:58 +0000 UTC [ - ]

> the platform seems to have lot of limitations

GerdaOS for the way.

lormayna 2021-08-18 15:20:35 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Did you try it? It seems a really interesting idea.

bodqhrohro 2021-08-18 16:07:36 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Nope, though I communicated a lot with the Ukrainian hacker who started the project and the whole bananahackers community.

My primary phone is from 00s, running a proprietary ENEA OSE operating system, and I have no reason to change it. Though if I'll have to, I'll consider something KaiOS-based or Android-based with a keypad, like Nokia 800 Tough, Discovery A17 or Snopow M2. Ideally with a GNU/Linux port available, bananahackers are digging into this direction too.

samstave 2021-08-16 20:51:20 +0000 UTC [ - ]

Anyone recall this:

Google pays over 310 million on the sexual misconduct claims of Andy Rubin:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andy-rubin-google-settlement-se...

and MANY other links ---

I recall when I interviewed at Danger, by Andy Rubin, for a head of IT position... I really wanted that job but I was SUPER badly suffering from the flu... and had a fever and had difficulty interviewing but I wanted the job so bad I foolishly went to the interview - which I would have performed much better as healthy...

Anyway - lots of people dopn't know that Rubin was paid A LOT of money to not reveal the OTHER sexual misconduct at google.... it was widely rumored he was paid for his silence...

Look at Uber's bullshit they went through, not simply inclusive of paying for the medical records of a female employee to shame a female employee who was against their mgmt suite....

Or... Youtube founders amazing drug fueled parties.

Or... many of the sex parties in SF especially around ~2010 with porn star talent at some of the parties...

Fun times.