At Shul, We Drink Single Malt: On “A Fortress in Brooklyn”
divbzero 2021-08-18 23:07:17 +0000 UTC [ - ]
smitty1e 2021-08-18 11:56:17 +0000 UTC [ - ]
not_throw_away 2021-08-18 15:05:18 +0000 UTC [ - ]
cainxinth 2021-08-18 12:46:31 +0000 UTC [ - ]
steviedotboston 2021-08-18 14:39:09 +0000 UTC [ - ]
dragonwriter 2021-08-18 16:55:24 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Technically, as I understand it, neither do the Amish. They have opposition to uses of technology that they feel undermine the social, and particularly family, structure. This may result on bans on technology which is seen as prone to such use and for which there isn't a combination of positive use and prescribed manner of use that adequately mitigates the problem (the exact boundaries of which differing between different Amish groups.)
schoen 2021-08-18 17:03:46 +0000 UTC [ - ]
* Religion is supposed to define almost every aspect of life and culture.
* Unlike many other Jewish and Christian movements and communities, both groups emphasize visible, conscious, active separatism from surrounding cultures. (Whereas other orthodox Jews not uncommonly wear clothes typical of their neighbors and work in secular cultural vocations, like secular university teaching or even being the host of Jeopardy.)
* As a sibling comment pointed out, having lots of kids is encouraged.
* There is a process by which local authorities can interpret the rules, and their interpretations are binding on their communities. (If you don't like them, you need to leave the community to be subject to a different community's interpretation.)
* There are different communities with different interpretations and traditions, but, within certain parameters, they may respect and accept each other, intermarry, cooperate in various ways, and so on.
The hasidim do also regulate the use of technology by their members (this article alludes to Internet restrictions, for example), but maybe on a "default allow" rather than "default deny" basis.
It seems like the Amish prioritize keeping their communities based around certain kinds of work (farming and small-scale crafts and manufacturing), and also keeping them rural. Hasidim have made a switch to urban (and, as the article notes, suburban) living.
smitty1e 2021-08-19 01:42:39 +0000 UTC [ - ]
TchoBeer 2021-08-18 17:41:31 +0000 UTC [ - ]
My impression was that this isn't true? It's at least true of some Hasidim, maybe Satmar was different.
cainxinth 2021-08-18 16:42:00 +0000 UTC [ - ]
The Hassids and the Amish basically decided that their society should, as much as possible, try to replicate their existence in 18th century Europe.
The Amish have gone further in that attempt, but both want to block out modern influences to a large extent.
Not saying it’s good or bad, but that’s what they are doing.
alisonkisk 2021-08-18 17:03:05 +0000 UTC [ - ]
An on-line camera store is not 18th Century.
MaysonL 2021-08-18 15:15:48 +0000 UTC [ - ]
flerchin 2021-08-18 11:56:27 +0000 UTC [ - ]
JasonFruit 2021-08-18 12:51:38 +0000 UTC [ - ]
yaacov 2021-08-18 15:18:26 +0000 UTC [ - ]
alisonkisk 2021-08-18 17:03:40 +0000 UTC [ - ]
prvc 2021-08-18 13:21:46 +0000 UTC [ - ]
The article was not clear about this, but one gathers that these laws were never enforced for that reason?
Gunax 2021-08-18 14:02:03 +0000 UTC [ - ]
oh_sigh 2021-08-18 17:06:03 +0000 UTC [ - ]
alisonkisk 2021-08-18 17:01:17 +0000 UTC [ - ]
That's a Category Error. "Religion" is a protected class. "Jewish" is not a protected class.