Teenagers Are Rediscovering an Old Game About Authoritarianism
xkeysc0re 2021-08-18 23:54:48 +0000 UTC [ - ]
It sold almost 2 million copies and won numerous awards...
AfterShave 2021-08-19 08:42:33 +0000 UTC [ - ]
gumby 2021-08-19 04:53:36 +0000 UTC [ - ]
This seems to be common, and is crazy. It’s perfect for high schoolers.
My kid had to campaign to get it added back to his school curriculum.
photojosh 2021-08-19 05:59:09 +0000 UTC [ - ]
IIRC Animal Farm was suggested to us, but not 1984.
allturtles 2021-08-18 23:33:26 +0000 UTC [ - ]
vintermann 2021-08-19 08:23:12 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Lots of people speak as if the game is somehow "realistic" about living in authoritarian states. But it's a complete mishmash of totalitarian tropes.
Most obviously, you are a border official being oppressive to people who want to come into your country. To work, mostly.
Generally speaking, people do not strive to get into authoritarian countries to work. This was certainly not a common problem east bloc countries in Europe (whose aesthetic Papers, Please otherwise obviously tries to channel). True, some were a bit freer and richer than others, but then you, as a citizen of the less free countries, probably couldn't just go work there on your own initiative. Planned economies generally don't let you!
Speaking of that, that's another jarring thing: you, a government official in a role vulnerable to corruption and worse, got it on short notice via a lottery. That sounds... implausible. On one hand, it's very command economy, with the state just commanding you out like a soldier. But giving out trusted, powerful positions in a lottery is decidedly un-command economy, and even un-authoritarian of any sort. You have power over people's lives in "Papers, Please", that's the game's point. But in an authoritarian state, that sort of power is jealously guarded!
And then there's the part about keeping your family from starving, freezing or dying from lack of healthcare, by your 100% performance pay wages. That is decidedly not very command economy. What kind of weird country is this??
The human drama also feels rather misplaced sometimes. There's an early storyline about a pimp and human trafficking. Sex trafficking is another of those things that, if it is a problem in the sort of country that has internal passports, feels like it would take very different forms than flashy private pimps and victims appealing to the border guard for help.
So in short, it's a mishmash of oppressive tropes. If Lucas Pope had wanted to make profound commentary on totalitarian states, he would probably have been a lot more bothered about these inconsistencies. So I'm assuming that wasn't his goal. Which is fine. It IS a great game, mechanically and mood wise.
anthk 2021-08-19 01:59:04 +0000 UTC [ - ]
"Old" could be some 1993 game in 2001. But today games didn' t make a radical change as they did from Doom and Ultima VII to Max Payne and GTA3.
thrower123 2021-08-19 00:06:28 +0000 UTC [ - ]
lupire 2021-08-18 23:40:01 +0000 UTC [ - ]
karaterobot 2021-08-19 00:38:14 +0000 UTC [ - ]
RichEO 2021-08-18 23:45:58 +0000 UTC [ - ]
sudosysgen 2021-08-18 23:56:31 +0000 UTC [ - ]
droptablemain 2021-08-19 00:05:52 +0000 UTC [ - ]
robertlagrant 2021-08-19 04:38:06 +0000 UTC [ - ]
> The October labor lottery is complete. Your name was pulled. For immediate placement, report to the Ministry of Admission at Grestin Border Checkpoint. An apartment will be provided for you and your family in East Grestin. Expect a Class-8 dwelling.
Sounds pretty low on individual freedom to me.
finger 2021-08-18 23:34:18 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Grand Theft Auto V also came out in 2013. Minecraft is from 2009. CS GO is from 2012 but is very alike the original from 2000. All of those are still some of the biggest games today I believe.
tallies 2021-08-19 01:46:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]
rufus_foreman 2021-08-19 12:31:50 +0000 UTC [ - ]
You're one of today's unlucky 10,000.
zimpenfish 2021-08-19 09:37:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Counterpoint: Minecraft got a major update last month and there's another one coming ~December. It might have been created many years ago but it's definitely not an "old game".
Don't play the other two but IIRC GTAV Online is still getting updates?
Aeolun 2021-08-18 23:36:38 +0000 UTC [ - ]
empressplay 2021-08-19 03:01:53 +0000 UTC [ - ]
jbluepolarbear 2021-08-19 02:31:44 +0000 UTC [ - ]
dTal 2021-08-19 08:12:05 +0000 UTC [ - ]