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The Creativity Code

crazy_horse 2021-08-18 18:09:06 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I wonder if any of his angst would be calmed if he understood what modern machine learning (deep learning even) is. It really doesn't sound like the original author has more than a passing familiarity, even being a math genius.

Right now and for the foreseeable future machines work well at the limited tasks they are trained to do but still require a human to design and they require beautiful algorithms of the kind being fretted about.

I don't see the point of this angst or doom and gloom of the Musk variety until we are anywhere near that.

Tariq Rashid is an author that makes this very, very approachable.

karmakaze 2021-08-18 19:41:52 +0000 UTC [ - ]

I wasn't picking up on any doom/gloom and thought it's was ok broad coverage of the area.

> The algorithmic moments that he finds unequivocally creative — AlphaGo's "truly creative act" or the Continuator's emulation of Bernard Lubat — du Sautoy qualifies as "exploratory creativity." Combinatorial creativity is exemplified by François Pachet's Flow Machine creating a jazz synthesis of Charlie Parker with Pierre Boulez. As for transformational creativity, du Sautoy hasn't yet seen it, but he is prudent enough not to rule it out, allowing for the possibility of meta-algorithms "designed to break the rules and see what happens."

This seems as balanced a description as I could expect.

tartoran 2021-08-18 18:49:32 +0000 UTC [ - ]

> I don't see the point of this angst or doom and gloom of the Musk variety until we are anywhere near that.

I think that if we get near that point it will become an unstoppable affair. For now it seems we are heading into an unknown and unclear direction. Creating artificial consciousn bodyless humans may not be possible but imitations of it surely will come around.