Who will win the self-driving race? Here are eight possibilities
ericmay 2021-08-18 14:16:35 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Tesla is the only serious contender so far. They're the only company with real life cars on real life roads all over the world. It's not just the technology, it's deployment of the technology at scale. It's a platform.
Comma.ai is good too and I think it'll be a great option for adding AI-like capabilities to future and past "dumb" cars.
I see right around 0% chance for Cruze and others. They'll never figure it out. Chinese companies might though.
I think we'll see Tesla, some emerging Chinese automaker contenders, lots of current brands with smart features, and technology like Comma.ai. The future isn't just "does a car have AI?", it's the combination of the hardware of the car, battery management, routing, and platform.
Still curious about what Apple intends to do here.
deegles 2021-08-18 14:27:10 +0000 UTC [ - ]
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/tesla-is-now-beta-testi...
mwint 2021-08-18 14:22:24 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Every time I drive an unfamiliar car, I see so much opportunity for an Apple-like company to fix the UX of infotainment and quality feel of volume dials, etc.
This might be the way everyone else can catch up to Tesla’s UX. Yes, Tesla has issues, but their dang touchscreen doesn’t have a half second input delay.
nhumrich 2021-08-18 14:54:09 +0000 UTC [ - ]
mwint 2021-08-18 15:22:54 +0000 UTC [ - ]
hiptobecubic 2021-08-18 14:32:37 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Tesla is probably the only "famous" autonomy company that is not considered a serious contender, including by people sitting in them.
shapefrog 2021-08-18 14:21:09 +0000 UTC [ - ]
I expect this to happen in reverse. Google will buy up some more startups in the space then eventually a traditional car maker.
ericmay 2021-08-18 19:23:55 +0000 UTC [ - ]
joey_bob 2021-08-18 14:22:24 +0000 UTC [ - ]
sudhirj 2021-08-18 14:31:49 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Self-driving is not a solvable or a winnable problem, because the problem or question isn’t defined. It’s a probabilistic space, where the world presents scenarios, and a computer must make a “correct” or “good” decision as often as possible, for the widest range of inputs.
Because there isn’t a grand unified formula for self-driving, I’m not even sure how we can talk about it being “solved”. Maybe Tesla might be able to self-drive on US or EU or first world clearly marked streets with 99.99% automation, assuming training data exists for all road signs and weather conditions? Is that what we mean by self-driving being solved? That might be possible in the next few years.
Other than that, doesn’t seem like there’s going to be much more than driver assist. Driving is a general intelligence problem, not something machine learning can solve - by definition ML can only work on problems it has many known solutions to.
6gvONxR4sf7o 2021-08-18 16:39:25 +0000 UTC [ - ]
twelve40 2021-08-18 14:49:37 +0000 UTC [ - ]
xnx 2021-08-18 17:17:03 +0000 UTC [ - ]
cipher_system 2021-08-18 14:59:44 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Maybe if enough routes work that people find it worth to buy.
waffletower 2021-08-18 14:17:42 +0000 UTC [ - ]
ModernMech 2021-08-18 14:29:11 +0000 UTC [ - ]
endisneigh 2021-08-18 14:32:49 +0000 UTC [ - ]
For those in the future, I bet by 2035 there will be no car that can take you coast to coast with you ever having intervene.
andyxor 2021-08-18 14:48:45 +0000 UTC [ - ]
baybal2 2021-08-18 14:12:52 +0000 UTC [ - ]
The whole name "self-driving" is invented to pull the wool on public's eyes, and is a misnomer.
It's fundamentally clear to anybody moderately technically literate that what "self-driving" companies can't be called "driving," yet there are way more studied, and credited people than us here working in these companies who know that, and stay silent.
jefftk 2021-08-18 14:15:17 +0000 UTC [ - ]
baybal2 2021-08-18 14:22:58 +0000 UTC [ - ]
hiptobecubic 2021-08-18 14:29:44 +0000 UTC [ - ]
2) many (most?) licensed drivers today could not pass difficult urban driving tests without violating a zillion laws and taking totally unsafe risks that people would never allow robots to gamble on.
aaccount 2021-08-18 14:08:15 +0000 UTC [ - ]
Tesla can't even get their cars to drive in an empty tunnel
AndrewDucker 2021-08-18 14:13:03 +0000 UTC [ - ]
rkangel 2021-08-18 14:11:14 +0000 UTC [ - ]
It's limited to a single suburb, but it's definitely full self driving (unlike a lot of other offerings).
blakesterz 2021-08-18 14:15:07 +0000 UTC [ - ]
My first thought was that a decade from now there will be a very limited number of self driving cars on the road, still. Mostly because people (not all people, but most people) will be very scared of the technology, no matter how good it is. Every time there's an accident it'll make news. Any deaths will make the news. It will not matter if statistically self-driving vehicles are safer.
I do wonder, can it ever be as good as or better than a person? Won't they always hesitate more, be slower than, and take more time than a real person driving? If it costs a little less to take a self-driving taxi than a person-driving taxi, why would anyone bother? What's the motivation for people to go with a self-driven thing over a person driven thing? Will there really be a big price difference?
s1artibartfast 2021-08-18 14:52:16 +0000 UTC [ - ]
when pitting Actual safety + massive convenience VS. fear, I think the former will win out for a large part of the market.
I also think the majority of people would pay more for a self driven taxi than a person driven taxi. Some reasons might be personal space, privacy, safety, and reliability in terms of dispatch and cancelled rides.
moistly 2021-08-19 04:15:26 +0000 UTC [ - ]
me_me_me 2021-08-18 17:07:31 +0000 UTC [ - ]
ActorNightly 2021-08-18 17:00:54 +0000 UTC [ - ]